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Positioning in v15
Hi,
In version 15 the positioning command has been changed a lot. Here, every user is annoyed by the new behavior. The only enhancement I can find is that you can directly start the 'translate->two points' command. Overall, the command has a lot of bugs and little annoying 'features'. I saw that some of those are fixed in v15.5, but the biggest drawback in our opinion remains. This 'enhancement' is in position dynamic: in the previous version, you could drag a part, snap to a face, click on the opposite direction and type the offset-distance for that face. If you do this in v15, the offset is to the initial origin, in stead of the position where the part was when the new direction was selected. I can't find a useful reason for this behavior, and we used the previous behavior constantly. Do others think the command has improved? What about the position-dynamic? Do other users use it like we did (which is now impossible)? Regards, Marten Verhoeven |
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Re: Positioning in v15
Hi Marten,
we used the dynamic positioning in the same way as you before, it is a pity that this is not more possible. Hovever, as workaround you can switch after the first move from dynamic positioning to two points move and then back. After that the offset distance is used. But it means two mouse clicks more. An enhancement (in comparison to V13.2 we used before update) is the possibility to align axis by snapping a circular line instead a round surface, i.e. if you need to arrange pipes. Best regards, Erwin |
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Re: Positioning in v15
Hi Erwin,
Thanks for your response. I didn't know you could align an axis to a circle. Quite useful actually. I hope more people reported the pos-dynamic part to CoCreate, so that they will change that behavior back to how it was before. Best regards, Marten Verhoeven |
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Re: Positioning in v15
Marten, Erwin, correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like what you are both trying to do is a mate with offset? If this is true, the functionality is still there, it just requires a different menu selection: Click Mate Align, the Mate radio button is on by default so select the two faces to mate, now the Offset field is active and you can type in an offset in the face normal direction to the face you are mating to (or negative value to go minus face normal).
chris
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Re: Positioning in v15
Hi Chris,
Most of the time, you could use mate/align with offset, but that isn't as easy as with pos-dynamic: - It requires more mouseclicks than with pos-dynamic - You need to make the choice between mate or align. - You risk rotating the part when the faces are not exactly parallel (with pos-dynamic it just will not snap to the face). - You need to think about the distance: do you need to fill in a positive or negative value? - You can't mate with offset if you only have vertices to align. Overall, it is not as intuitive as with pos-dynamic. Mate with offset was available in previous versions also, but here everybody prefers using pos-dynamic. Regards, Marten Verhoeven |
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Re: Positioning in v15
One issue I have encountered with the position command is with the object selection. Usually when I click the position command, the default is "Selected" which is always what I want. But every once in awhile it will be "Direct." This is frustrating because I will sometimes be making a list of parts I want to move and only when I come to the end of it do I realize the option has been "Direct" all along, and when I click the radio button for "Selected" my list is now gone. Are there commands to change the default setting? Was v14 like this too?
Thanks, Rich |
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Re: Positioning in v15
Yes, that too is frustrating. I forgot about that one, because I changed the command to always be on 'selected'. You can do this by making a custom sd_avail_cmds.cmd file which contains:
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(:Group "Part and Assy" :title "Part and Assy") ("Position Dynamic" :title "Position" :action "pos_dynamic :objects-by-selection" :description "Positions a part, assembly or workplane dynamically" :image "SolidDesigner/Part_Assy/position_part_assy" :ui-behavior (if (si::eval-feature 'lisp::viewermode) :on-request :relative) :sd-access :yes) When you press OK in the position command, it stores the current selection of direct/selected. When you press cancel however, the current selection isn't stored, but reset to the system default, so the next time you start the position-command, it is set to 'direct' again. Regards, Marten Verhoeven |
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Re: Positioning in v15
Thanks Marten,
That worked great. Rich |
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Re: Positioning in v15
Hi Marten,
with 15.x we have the same problems with the new positioning command. Mate / Align doesn´t as before (from version 1 up), move a part to a face and move it in the opposite direction works different, ... I sent these problems to CoCreate and I got the message, that the positioning should workin the same way (perhaps with new options) like in earlier version with 15.50B. Regards WoHo
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Re: Positioning in v15
Thanks Woho, that's good news...
I'll be watching e-support. Marten |
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Re: Positioning in v15
Same frustration here.
I hope they change it back to the old way.
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